AmesMUG Officers: Re: New MUG server

[Brandon Newendorp]

These are definitely reasonable in my opinion.

Travis, to address a couple of them:
Donors will absolutely have privileges on the machine, as they have  
right now.  I think our current thought is to use the G5 as a server  
(due to the video issues).

As far as repurposing the G4, we've had some discussion about putting  
it in our office space as a faster machine than our current iMac.  We  
will look into our options with it, though.  Thanks again for the  
donation - it is much appreciated.
--
Brandon Newendorp

On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:52 PM, John Rearick wrote:

> These strings seem reasonable.  I have CCed the officers list so we  
> have a record of the terms.  I don't think we will have any  
> objections.  You can ship the machine to:
>
> AmesMUG c/o John Rearick
> 301 Curtiss Hall
> Iowa State University
> Ames, IA 50011
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> John Rearick
>
> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Travis wrote:
>
>> Sorry, John, you're email got lost in my inbox.
>>
>> I have the machine already to be shipped.  I'll pay for UPS  
>> ground, so I'll need an address that it be accepted at.  Should it  
>> go to Curtis or somewhere else?
>>
>> Does the following also sound reasonable?
>>
>> *  The club gets full privileges for the machine for as long as  
>> they want to use it, but it if is retired or not used (e.g., if  
>> the video problem can't be fixed by you guys), then the machine  
>> comes back to me.  This is just because it is a favor for me to  
>> get the machine, and I feel responsible for its final resting  
>> place.  I'm perfectly happy if it is used as the server, but  
>> otherwise maybe it should head back to me.
>>
>> *  Ben, Corey, myself and other donors get the usual privs (though  
>> Corey doesn't seem to need them at the moment).  I don't think  
>> this has been much of a burden and is actually beneficial for  
>> money and support.  I know when the G4 was bought, it was said  
>> that donors get an account in perpetuity, which still makes sense  
>> to me.
>>
>> *  The G4 finds a new purpose or is sold.  Corey, Ben and I co- 
>> bought that, so we'd like to see it used or maybe sold to give the  
>> club some funds.  This can be discussed and I have no strong  
>> opinions, but just that it is thought about.
>>
>>
>> Hope this makes sense.  Let me know what you think and what  
>> address you want me to send it to.  I'll try to ship it before  
>> Friday, because I'm out of town all next week.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> p.s.  I feel horrible "attaching strings", but I guess I'm just  
>> trying to be clear about things up front.  These shouldn't change  
>> anything though...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:49 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the consensus is that we would like the G5.  What do we  
>>> need to do?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>
>>>> It runs headless now, I'm just worried about OS upgrades.  For  
>>>> instance, I don't know how you would install OS X Server on this  
>>>> machine.  Yeah, you could swithc the harddrives between  
>>>> machines, but that is a pain and you might not want that for  
>>>> your (suppose to be dependable) server.  Also, in the future, it  
>>>> might be a pain to upgrade headless to 10.5.  And this machine  
>>>> could never get an official repair, if that ever needed to happen.
>>>>
>>>> Just trying to outline the concerns.  Let me know what the club  
>>>> says.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>> p.s.  btw, I tried a PC video card in it and didn't get  
>>>> anything, but it could also be just because it wasn't a Mac  
>>>> card.  I know sometimes there are still mac-specific versions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:35 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like a great deal.  I can probably borrow a different  
>>>>> video card to troubleshoot.  If it is the video card, I'm sure  
>>>>> we can probably just run it headless.  I will bring it up at  
>>>>> the officer's meeting tomorrow and hopefully have an answer there.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you want to weight in on this?  Too much trouble to get  
>>>>>> the new machine working?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have another G5 video card to see if that is the  
>>>>>> problem (which was be a simple fix).  In my limited diagnosis,  
>>>>>> it is either the card or the slot/motherboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Ben Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ultimately, the MUG should make this decision.  I do like the  
>>>>>>> idea of having a newer machine than what we have; however,  
>>>>>>> the G4 machine we have is quite stable and although it's not  
>>>>>>> brand new, it meets the club's needs as far as I know.  My  
>>>>>>> opinion is to pass on this newer machine, but John's opinion  
>>>>>>> will carry more weight.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ben Reagan
>>>>>>> ben at benreagan.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey you guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm writing the two of you first, just to fly this by you.   
>>>>>>>> I got permission to pass along a dual-G5 1.8 Ghz tower for  
>>>>>>>> the MUG to use.  The only problem is that the graphics card  
>>>>>>>> is really flakey.  Normally it takes about 30 mins of  
>>>>>>>> playing with (zapping pram, restarting, etc.) until it turns  
>>>>>>>> on and powers the monitor.  Today I've been trying for  
>>>>>>>> several hours with no luck.  VNC works and all, but it will  
>>>>>>>> be hard to install a new OS on the machine.  The other catch  
>>>>>>>> is that this machine can't go into a shop to get repaired  
>>>>>>>> (the main condition that allows me to pass on the machine),  
>>>>>>>> so if it is the motherboard or something, it would have to  
>>>>>>>> be done by us or not at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?  Is this worth something to the MUG, even though  
>>>>>>>> we just got the server up and running again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> travis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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