AmesMUG Officers: Re: New MUG server

[Tom Hillson]

I have an ATI video card that I used to give me vga video in an old G3. I
will donate it to the club, so you can work on the server. John, knows where
is is at in the office.

Tom

On 10/17/06 5:08 PM, "Brandon Newendorp" <bnew at iastate.edu> wrote:

> These are definitely reasonable in my opinion.
> 
> Travis, to address a couple of them:
> Donors will absolutely have privileges on the machine, as they have
> right now.  I think our current thought is to use the G5 as a server
> (due to the video issues).
> 
> As far as repurposing the G4, we've had some discussion about putting
> it in our office space as a faster machine than our current iMac.  We
> will look into our options with it, though.  Thanks again for the
> donation - it is much appreciated.
> --
> Brandon Newendorp
> 
> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:52 PM, John Rearick wrote:
> 
>> These strings seem reasonable.  I have CCed the officers list so we
>> have a record of the terms.  I don't think we will have any
>> objections.  You can ship the machine to:
>> 
>> AmesMUG c/o John Rearick
>> 301 Curtiss Hall
>> Iowa State University
>> Ames, IA 50011
>> 
>> Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> John Rearick
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Travis wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, John, you're email got lost in my inbox.
>>> 
>>> I have the machine already to be shipped.  I'll pay for UPS
>>> ground, so I'll need an address that it be accepted at.  Should it
>>> go to Curtis or somewhere else?
>>> 
>>> Does the following also sound reasonable?
>>> 
>>> *  The club gets full privileges for the machine for as long as
>>> they want to use it, but it if is retired or not used (e.g., if
>>> the video problem can't be fixed by you guys), then the machine
>>> comes back to me.  This is just because it is a favor for me to
>>> get the machine, and I feel responsible for its final resting
>>> place.  I'm perfectly happy if it is used as the server, but
>>> otherwise maybe it should head back to me.
>>> 
>>> *  Ben, Corey, myself and other donors get the usual privs (though
>>> Corey doesn't seem to need them at the moment).  I don't think
>>> this has been much of a burden and is actually beneficial for
>>> money and support.  I know when the G4 was bought, it was said
>>> that donors get an account in perpetuity, which still makes sense
>>> to me.
>>> 
>>> *  The G4 finds a new purpose or is sold.  Corey, Ben and I co-
>>> bought that, so we'd like to see it used or maybe sold to give the
>>> club some funds.  This can be discussed and I have no strong
>>> opinions, but just that it is thought about.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope this makes sense.  Let me know what you think and what
>>> address you want me to send it to.  I'll try to ship it before
>>> Friday, because I'm out of town all next week.
>>> 
>>> Travis
>>> 
>>> p.s.  I feel horrible "attaching strings", but I guess I'm just
>>> trying to be clear about things up front.  These shouldn't change
>>> anything though...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:49 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I believe the consensus is that we would like the G5.  What do we
>>>> need to do?
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It runs headless now, I'm just worried about OS upgrades.  For
>>>>> instance, I don't know how you would install OS X Server on this
>>>>> machine.  Yeah, you could swithc the harddrives between
>>>>> machines, but that is a pain and you might not want that for
>>>>> your (suppose to be dependable) server.  Also, in the future, it
>>>>> might be a pain to upgrade headless to 10.5.  And this machine
>>>>> could never get an official repair, if that ever needed to happen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just trying to outline the concerns.  Let me know what the club
>>>>> says.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> 
>>>>> p.s.  btw, I tried a PC video card in it and didn't get
>>>>> anything, but it could also be just because it wasn't a Mac
>>>>> card.  I know sometimes there are still mac-specific versions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:35 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sounds like a great deal.  I can probably borrow a different
>>>>>> video card to troubleshoot.  If it is the video card, I'm sure
>>>>>> we can probably just run it headless.  I will bring it up at
>>>>>> the officer's meeting tomorrow and hopefully have an answer there.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you want to weight in on this?  Too much trouble to get
>>>>>>> the new machine working?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't have another G5 video card to see if that is the
>>>>>>> problem (which was be a simple fix).  In my limited diagnosis,
>>>>>>> it is either the card or the slot/motherboard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Ben Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Travis,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ultimately, the MUG should make this decision.  I do like the
>>>>>>>> idea of having a newer machine than what we have; however,
>>>>>>>> the G4 machine we have is quite stable and although it's not
>>>>>>>> brand new, it meets the club's needs as far as I know.  My
>>>>>>>> opinion is to pass on this newer machine, but John's opinion
>>>>>>>> will carry more weight.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ben Reagan
>>>>>>>> ben at benreagan.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey you guys,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm writing the two of you first, just to fly this by you.
>>>>>>>>> I got permission to pass along a dual-G5 1.8 Ghz tower for
>>>>>>>>> the MUG to use.  The only problem is that the graphics card
>>>>>>>>> is really flakey.  Normally it takes about 30 mins of
>>>>>>>>> playing with (zapping pram, restarting, etc.) until it turns
>>>>>>>>> on and powers the monitor.  Today I've been trying for
>>>>>>>>> several hours with no luck.  VNC works and all, but it will
>>>>>>>>> be hard to install a new OS on the machine.  The other catch
>>>>>>>>> is that this machine can't go into a shop to get repaired
>>>>>>>>> (the main condition that allows me to pass on the machine),
>>>>>>>>> so if it is the motherboard or something, it would have to
>>>>>>>>> be done by us or not at all.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?  Is this worth something to the MUG, even though
>>>>>>>>> we just got the server up and running again?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> travis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

--Tom

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