AmesMUG Officers: Fwd: New MUG server
Brandon Newendorp
bnew at iastate.edu
Thu Oct 19 15:29:45 CDT 2006
--
Brandon Newendorp
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Travis <travler at mac.com>
> Date: October 19, 2006 1:52:34 PM CDT
> To: Brandon Newendorp <bnew at iastate.edu>, Tom Hillson
> <hillson at iastate.edu>, John Rearick <jrearick at iastate.edu>, AmesMUG
> Officers list <officers at amesmug.org>
> Cc: Ben Reagan <ben at benreagan.net>, Travis Franck <travler at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: New MUG server
>
> Hey Everyone!
>
> Reading my previous email, it sounded a bit "businessy". Didn't
> mean that -- this is a fun thing and I'm super happy as always to
> help the MUG. I guess I was just tired from a long day at work.
>
> The machine is shipped! I dropped it off with UPS this morning and
> it should arrive at Curtiss Hall on Tuesday (c/o John). The
> tracking number is:
> UPS Ground #1Z41538W0351751195
>
> I was using the machine quite a bit before this, but I have tried
> to clean it off mostly. It still has some random applications and
> it ran a wiki, etc. for a bit, so some services are turned on. I
> figure you're like to reformat the whole thing anyway, or just
> install the RAID drives. As far as log-in information, I created
> an account on the machine. I don't actually remember the username,
> but there is only one and you should be able to see it if you try
> to log in with VNC (which is turned on; Chicken of VNC will find it
> using Bonjour just fine). The password for both VNC and the acct
> is 'novideo' . I think, once you find out the username, ssh and
> other services should be turned on. I tried to leave some of that
> open for you guys, just in case that would make diagnosing the
> video problem easier.
>
> Brandon et al: I didn't think anything would change donor access-
> wise, but I guess I thought it had been a couple of years and there
> has been some turn over of MUG leadership, so I guess I was just
> laying it out there for everyone again. Glad everyone is happy
> with the current arrangements. ;)
>
> Let me know how it goes with the G5. I hope it really is something
> simple like the video card. Like I might have mentioned before, I
> tried replacing it once, but didn't have a Mac-compatible card, so
> I don't think it was a fair test. Tom's card might prove more
> useful. Hopefully you guys can diagnose the problem pretty soon/
> quickly. And I hope you guys can log-in okay. I'll be away from
> my normal computer next week, but I'll try to check email if you
> have any questions.
>
> Other things: It is a 160GB harddrive, 512MB RAM (sorry, it sucked
> for me too), dual 1.8Ghz G5 machine. It has Airport installed, but
> didn't have an antennae. I didn't include a keyboard or mouse,
> since I'm sure there are tons of those in Curtiss already. Oh, and
> I didn't get a chance to really label the machine with "AmesMUG",
> but I'm sure John can look after that.
>
> I'm glad this is working out. Let me know if I can help in some
> other way. Hopefully this new computing power will allow for some
> cool activity in the future. ;)
>
> Travis
>
> p.s. For those who don't know me in person, I'm a Class of 2001
> ISU graduate that helped co-found (or co-revive, as Tom might
> argue) the ISUMUG/AmesMUG. I've done a few different things over
> the years, including employment at Adobe and Apple. Now I'm
> currently a graduate student studying climate change at MIT.
>
>
> On Oct 17, 2006, at 6:08 PM, Brandon Newendorp wrote:
>
>> These are definitely reasonable in my opinion.
>>
>> Travis, to address a couple of them:
>> Donors will absolutely have privileges on the machine, as they
>> have right now. I think our current thought is to use the G5 as a
>> server (due to the video issues).
>>
>> As far as repurposing the G4, we've had some discussion about
>> putting it in our office space as a faster machine than our
>> current iMac. We will look into our options with it, though.
>> Thanks again for the donation - it is much appreciated.
>> --
>> Brandon Newendorp
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:52 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>
>>> These strings seem reasonable. I have CCed the officers list so
>>> we have a record of the terms. I don't think we will have any
>>> objections. You can ship the machine to:
>>>
>>> AmesMUG c/o John Rearick
>>> 301 Curtiss Hall
>>> Iowa State University
>>> Ames, IA 50011
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> John Rearick
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, John, you're email got lost in my inbox.
>>>>
>>>> I have the machine already to be shipped. I'll pay for UPS
>>>> ground, so I'll need an address that it be accepted at. Should
>>>> it go to Curtis or somewhere else?
>>>>
>>>> Does the following also sound reasonable?
>>>>
>>>> * The club gets full privileges for the machine for as long as
>>>> they want to use it, but it if is retired or not used (e.g., if
>>>> the video problem can't be fixed by you guys), then the machine
>>>> comes back to me. This is just because it is a favor for me to
>>>> get the machine, and I feel responsible for its final resting
>>>> place. I'm perfectly happy if it is used as the server, but
>>>> otherwise maybe it should head back to me.
>>>>
>>>> * Ben, Corey, myself and other donors get the usual privs
>>>> (though Corey doesn't seem to need them at the moment). I don't
>>>> think this has been much of a burden and is actually beneficial
>>>> for money and support. I know when the G4 was bought, it was
>>>> said that donors get an account in perpetuity, which still makes
>>>> sense to me.
>>>>
>>>> * The G4 finds a new purpose or is sold. Corey, Ben and I co-
>>>> bought that, so we'd like to see it used or maybe sold to give
>>>> the club some funds. This can be discussed and I have no strong
>>>> opinions, but just that it is thought about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this makes sense. Let me know what you think and what
>>>> address you want me to send it to. I'll try to ship it before
>>>> Friday, because I'm out of town all next week.
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>> p.s. I feel horrible "attaching strings", but I guess I'm just
>>>> trying to be clear about things up front. These shouldn't
>>>> change anything though...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 6, 2006, at 7:49 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I believe the consensus is that we would like the G5. What do
>>>>> we need to do?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It runs headless now, I'm just worried about OS upgrades. For
>>>>>> instance, I don't know how you would install OS X Server on
>>>>>> this machine. Yeah, you could swithc the harddrives between
>>>>>> machines, but that is a pain and you might not want that for
>>>>>> your (suppose to be dependable) server. Also, in the future,
>>>>>> it might be a pain to upgrade headless to 10.5. And this
>>>>>> machine could never get an official repair, if that ever
>>>>>> needed to happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just trying to outline the concerns. Let me know what the
>>>>>> club says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> p.s. btw, I tried a PC video card in it and didn't get
>>>>>> anything, but it could also be just because it wasn't a Mac
>>>>>> card. I know sometimes there are still mac-specific versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:35 PM, John Rearick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like a great deal. I can probably borrow a different
>>>>>>> video card to troubleshoot. If it is the video card, I'm
>>>>>>> sure we can probably just run it headless. I will bring it
>>>>>>> up at the officer's meeting tomorrow and hopefully have an
>>>>>>> answer there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:18 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you want to weight in on this? Too much trouble to get
>>>>>>>> the new machine working?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have another G5 video card to see if that is the
>>>>>>>> problem (which was be a simple fix). In my limited
>>>>>>>> diagnosis, it is either the card or the slot/motherboard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Ben Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Travis,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ultimately, the MUG should make this decision. I do like
>>>>>>>>> the idea of having a newer machine than what we have;
>>>>>>>>> however, the G4 machine we have is quite stable and
>>>>>>>>> although it's not brand new, it meets the club's needs as
>>>>>>>>> far as I know. My opinion is to pass on this newer
>>>>>>>>> machine, but John's opinion will carry more weight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ben Reagan
>>>>>>>>> ben at benreagan.net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:54 PM, Travis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey you guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm writing the two of you first, just to fly this by
>>>>>>>>>> you. I got permission to pass along a dual-G5 1.8 Ghz
>>>>>>>>>> tower for the MUG to use. The only problem is that the
>>>>>>>>>> graphics card is really flakey. Normally it takes about
>>>>>>>>>> 30 mins of playing with (zapping pram, restarting, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>> until it turns on and powers the monitor. Today I've been
>>>>>>>>>> trying for several hours with no luck. VNC works and all,
>>>>>>>>>> but it will be hard to install a new OS on the machine.
>>>>>>>>>> The other catch is that this machine can't go into a shop
>>>>>>>>>> to get repaired (the main condition that allows me to pass
>>>>>>>>>> on the machine), so if it is the motherboard or something,
>>>>>>>>>> it would have to be done by us or not at all.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Is this worth something to the MUG, even though
>>>>>>>>>> we just got the server up and running again?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> travis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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